TRM Talks: Stories from the Laundromat – Talking Money Laundering with the Author of "Rinsed" and "Lazarus Heist"

In this episode of TRM Talks, Ari Redbord, TRM's Global Head of Policy is joined by Lazarus Heist’s Geoff White to discuss his latest book Rinsed. Geoff discuss the stages of money laundering and provides colorful examples of placement, layering and integration from Pablo Escobar to North Korean cybercriminals. Ari and Geoff hit topics from bulk cash smuggling to crypto mixing in this wide ranging discussion that brings money laundering to life.

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About Geoff White

From billion-dollar cyber heists to global money laundering rings and crypto-gangsters – Geoff White has covered it all. As an author, speaker, investigative journalist and podcast creator, his work’s been featured by Penguin, the BBC, Audible, Sky News*,* The Sunday Times and many more. His new book for Penguin, Rinsed, reveals how technology has revolutionized money laundering, from drug cartels washing their cash in Bitcoin to organised fraud gangs recruiting money mules on social media.

His first book, Crime Dot Com, covered cybercrime’s emergence as a primal threat to modern society and was published in August 2020 by Reaktion Books. One of the key chapters detailed North Korea’s unlikely emergence as a cyber superpower. It was adapted by the BBC World Service into the hit 10-part podcast series The Lazarus Heist, co-created and co-hosted by Geoff, which immediately ranked number one in the UK Apple chart and within the top 7 in the US.

He has written and presented two major podcast series for Audible. The Dark Web exposes the shadow internet created by the US military and now home to hackers, crooks and freedom fighters. It has been a top ten hit on the platform since its launch in 2017. Artificial Intelligence: Friend or Foe? reveals the origins of AI, and shows how the technology is seeping into everyday life. Geoff’s own podcast series Cybercrime Investigations takes you inside the world of an investigative journalist, detailing the twists and turns as the story unfolds.

As the technology correspondent for Channel 4 News, one of the UK’s leading daily news programs, Geoff won multiple awards for his work on the Snowden leaks, the hacking of Britain’s largest ISP TalkTalk and his exposés of fraud in the internet dating industry. He was the creator of the program's Data Baby project, a unique experiment which used a fictional online persona to expose how personal data is used – and abused – online.